>>... but imagine if it was made amoral to challenge findings like those, and perhaps you'll share my unease at intolerance of dissent wrt C19 vaccines. Science is all about challenge, or else it's actually Cult.
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>I guess the impasse is caused by something deeper: Current PC thinking has dissolved the bond between rights and (responibilities and/or results).
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What does PC stand for in this context?

>I see no reason to force vaccination, as vaccination does not inhibit spread to a large degree.

I have yet to see evidence that vaccination does not inhibit spread. It doesn't eliminate spread, that's true. Vax'ed can get & spread COVID, but do they spread it for as long as unvax'ed? Do they show symptoms sooner? Do they recover sooner? I believe the answer to those questions is "No", "Yes", "Yes". So if you take the limited (but not zero) immunity provided by vaccination and combine it with a shorter asymptomatic phase and shorter transmission window, that suggests a significant limitation on spread.

>IMO society has to accept the decision of unvaccinated to risk death soon after infection -
>if overloaded health system needs to be avoided, couple "non-vaccination" with possible triage in advance.
>No need to make decision easy to avoid:
>- add analogous hoopla needed for getting an abortion.
>- add escrow for hospital cost
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>but afterwards stay out of the decision, test everybody until you declare it endemic.
>(Both elephants remain for ages below 18...)
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>my 0.22
>thomas

I don't understand this comment about abortion. Maybe it's because you're in Germany. In the US numerous states have imposed onerous and arbitrary restrictions on abortion seekers and providers. None of it is for medical or societal reasons. It's entirely religious. I'm not sure if making sick people wait 48 hours before admittance to a hospital, forcing them to get an ultrasound before treatment, or asking their parents for permission make sense.

There's no legal framework for the US gov't to force people to escrow for future medical expenses. You'd need an act of Congress to pass a tax on unvaccinated (ala Medicare/FICA) and it would almost certainly be tied up in courts for the next 1-2 years (making it a moot point).

All of which is to say that there's a straightforward mechanism for encouraging and rewarding pro-social behavior (like masking, vaccination, etc.) and that is via public health mandates. We do not need to rely on rube-golberg mechanisms that are inefficient and impractical to implement. The shame of all this is that our public health officials have been effectively dissuaded from doing what's necessary. Half-measures taken to appease anti-government reactionaries made this pandemic longer and more painful than it needed to be (and didn't appease anyone).