A friend was brought to a CA DevCon at their expense (as a User Group leader) right after they bought Clipper from Nantucket. He came home with the FUNNIEST stories - seems all the attendees except the Clipper programmers were main-frame DB2 programmers who had a more corporate culture/lifestyle. CA was totally appalled at the ClipperHeads standing up in meetings and demanding answers to the 5.0 bugs, and the other attendees couldn't understand why the ClipperHeads weren't wearing suits/ties to every session.
>Craig,
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>I have heard some awful things about CA, but never that one. However, it fits well with how I know the company works (or doesn't).
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>regards,