>Hi BOb,
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>You know, I think I liked the old prg method better. It was quick and easy once you knew your way around.
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>The 'not so easy to edit' visual classes are almost like using the original menu builder!
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That was the basis for my thought of not directly subclassing DataEnv so we get the best of both worlds... I understand writting builders is much easier with visual classes, but, as you said now, you have to work to get to the code. I got the framework to eliminate work!!!

BOb