>Kenneth....thanks for your note.
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>Nope, it *is* releasing... everything behaves as expected, the only way I can actually get to the subform is to move the main form half off the screen, so that I can see the subform. ...and of course, since I *know* it is there, the little devil, then I can go find it. Even when I click on the subform it doesn't "come out in front" it is always underneath the main form.
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>It is strange....I'm sure there is some really stupid combination of properties or something which causes this.
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>
>--- Larry

Larry,

Do you by any chance have the sub-form's ShowWindow property set to 2?