>>>>>>I am a longtime foxpro programmer but using VISual fxpro for
>>>>>>a month or two now. I have the form controls miniture panel
>>>>>>on display but all the choices(including grid) are dimmed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you mean that Grid button is dimmed on "Form Designer' Form Controls Toolbar"?
>>>>
>>>>Yes!
>>>
>>>I have never seen this before. It means that you cannot use Form Designer at all. Probably you have to reinstall VFP.
>>
>>Maybe he has no form open?
>
>But I asked about "Form Designer". You cannot open it without some new or existing form.

Right...but I thought maybe he was confusing toolbar and designer...