>>>>>>>I am a longtime foxpro programmer but using VISual fxpro for
>>>>>>>a month or two now. I have the form controls miniture panel
>>>>>>>on display but all the choices(including grid) are dimmed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you mean that Grid button is dimmed on "Form Designer' Form Controls Toolbar"?
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes!
>>>>
>>>>I have never seen this before. It means that you cannot use Form Designer at all. Probably you have to reinstall VFP.
>>>
>>>Maybe he has no form open?
>>
>>But I asked about "Form Designer". You cannot open it without some new or existing form.
>
>Right...but I thought maybe he was confusing toolbar and designer...

Well, I'll try again.