Dale, as you said history indeed repeats itself. We see this over and over throughout history of mankind.

But it's people like you that needs to step up and do something about it before it's too late. History if nothing else provides us with one important thing: the eventual outcome if nothing is done about it. I don't mean to be philosophical but we must learn from history but more importantly, apply to better the future. Thanks Dale for point this out.

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>I've been subscribed to another private list for approximately four years. Most people that participate are there for technical reasons.
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>A couple years ago a couple people started posting numerous off topic (nontechnical) messages and others started requesting that off topic messages go "private" instead of to the general list. This started a small war and the list owners had to step in.
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>The Guru's went off and started their own list. Questions are answered at their discretion. All messages are individually monitored/approved by the owner(s).
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>The "off topic" folks were expelled from the first list for using foul language and insulting anyone that disagreed with them. They started their own "anything goes" list.
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>The original list has new rules. Only technical discussions are allowed. If you get too personal and/or insulting you are expelled from the list.
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>I kind of like it. If I choose to participate in any one of the three, it is my choice. Of course, if you want to talk to one of the Guru's, everything has to be done their way or you don't get an answer.
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>History seems to be repeating itself here on the UT. Otherwise friendly, helpful people are taking sides with a few personal insults thrown in here and there. It's really a shame but, I guess that's life.
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>>If the current trend of threads in this (Chatter) section continues to outgrow exponentially compared to other more "technically-oriented" thread sections, I propose moving the Chatter-section to altogether another forum.
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>>IMHO, Chatter-section threads have/is overcluttering the otherwise technically-oriented UT.
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>>I propose this because UT lately is becoming very fragmented in thread topics. Maybe this is partly due to "growing pains" but I think UT needs to look at some sort of "re-organization".