Sorry to disappoint you, but this SHIT has got to stop.

We're not in a beauty contest here. Ed Pikman has posted innumerable valuable posts. While I don't necessarily agree with his framework, it's rare that he has steered someone away from the tried and true. He doesn't evangelize the way he does things. Sometimes he makes a mistake, but don't we all? Ed spends a lot of time here helping others.

John, I don't know why you're on this jihad, but it does a disservice to the UT and it does disservice to the MVP program. A large part of the MVP program is community building. This means DON'T insult...DON'T belittle....resolve differences privately.

I think you are taking unfair advantage of your technical standing in the VFP community to bully others, and I don't think that's right. Not only won't I judge your "contest", anyone who supports your unfair, and unwarranted, continual attacks is on my shitlist.

I suspect that this is the first time I have ever used harsh language here but....hey, dude....calm down. Nobody needs this stuff, OK?

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>In very simple terms... you could'nt carry our jock-straps...
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>Tell you what.... put your money where your mouth is.... If you are getting anywhere close to what a NY consultant gets, $1,000 should be about a days pay... it is for me....
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>Here is the bet....
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>You place you horse behind your "unbound" method. I will place my horse behind what VFP gives me for free.
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>The scenario:
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>We will do a simple system: Customers, Orders, Lineitems, and an Inventory.
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>Simple requirements....
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>Forms can be multi-instance. A user needs to have the ability to make whole sale changes to a set of line-items, and then cancel those changes, bring back what is on disk. A special rule is in place that if somebody made changes while you were editing a record, you need to warn the user that he/she might overwrite another user's changes.... I am sure we can come up with a few more...
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>Judging criteria:
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>1. Performance
>2. Maintainability
>3. UI design
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>One basic rule:
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>No frameworks, no prebuilt code.... This is VFP in the RAW!!! The Steel Cage Match....
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>I am sure we can refine this - add requirements and judging criteria...
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>I nominate John Koziol to be a judge in this little fiasco... There can be a few others as well.
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>Ed, $1,000 bucks says this "less-experienced" developer will mop up the Big Apple with what ever you produce..
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>NOW - step up to the plate and accept the challenge. OR.....knock off with the Russian phrases and personal crap. You want to be personal...fine.. back it up...
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>You have been served notice...you have been called out.....
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>Your move...
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>>>Less experience developers? Do you mean Mr. Booth and his petty friend?