Hello Fred

>Harry,
>You probably have some kind of "dangling" object reference in your form somewhere. The form can't go away

but I'm not trying to make it go away!

> Does the "X" in the upper right corner of that form gray out?

nope

David Frankenbach has a utility called OBJREF, I think, that can help with these kinds of problems.

I'll check that out in any case.

But I don't have a problem closing the form. The problem, if anything, is the opposite - it behaves as though its closed when it aint! i.e. I keep getting 'object not found' when it is actually up and running before my eyes.

Harry