>I might well be one of the "clowns" that Erik & Ed are talking about. However, I learned Fox 2.6 for Win on the job 6 years ago when, the client who hired me to do a job said, "Oh, by the way, can you do what we asked for as a Windows program?"

Probably not Jim. The fine, upstanding, well-edumacated individuals I'm talking about wouldn't be aware they were being critiqued....