>Thanks Harry
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>Luckily I was in denial about the usefulness of bought in frameworks for a while and was determined to create my own framework like I had done in 2.6

which probably forced you into grappling with the OOP model sooner than I did..
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>As a result I have managed to get 6 months of solid OOP in and have already turned in a couple of half decent applications in using my own home spun application object.
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>This involved using my own classes and even creating business objects (I had fun getting my head around them <g>)
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>It was the realisation that it would take me about a year of coding to replicate my 2.6 framework that finally made me crack and decide to use someone elses code.
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>After much swotting up I have decided that Maxframe will be the most gentle on me since it has the philosophy of using objects when they are needed and procedual code when it is needed. I believe that it will not force such a rigid structure on me as VPM.

I suspect that once we know enough, even VPM isn't that rigid. You just have to have a thorough understanding of what it does and the way it does it before you start 'customising' it.

Regards

Harry