Ed,

Well, look... All I was trying to do was remind everyone about not ..er.. verbally relieving one's self in public. *bg*

Good Lord knows I've started my share of verbal spats over the years. And, truth be known, I don't really mind a good donnybrook every so often. What was that movie with John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara? "The Thin Man?", (please feel free to correct this - I'm not a big movie fan) where he had been a boxer who killed someone in the ring and had gone to Ireland? Ended up in one whale of a fight with everyone taking bets? Nothing wrong with a good fight - let's just try and remember to keep it clean. *bg*

That's all, really...

Personally, I think that you and JVP in particular have been quite generous in your support of other developers and I appreciate it. I just wish all 'o youse guys wern't as stubborn as I am. *g*

Best,

DD


>>I'm going to call you three "The Plutonium Boys" because when you all get together you seem to blow up.
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>>*g*
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>>Why in the world haven't you fellows figured out how to tolerate each other, at least publicly? Doesn't mean you have to like each other but for goodness sakes, let's remember that we're ambassadors for our craft. Nothing like a good family fight now and then but let's all try and remember that before we are Developers we are human. Let's try and so act.
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>I don't feel that JVP's right to express an opinion should be any more limited than my own. Issues of civility aside, JVP is fully entitled to his opinions of what's going on at FPA, more informed by a wide margin than myself or Jim, and I was being very simple and up front; I value JVP's opinions, and notion of the direction of VFP, the VFP community, and the publications he's been writing for for some time more than Jim's. I was perhaps out of line in pointing out that a deceased, yappy toy poodle that literally died because it chased cars for years and finally caught one has at least as much value to me as Jim's POV here. John knows his motivations. John knows what's been said and planned. His opinions on the matters at hand hold weight and value. Jim's do not, and his annoyance at John's persistence and tenacity of criticizing a periodical he's read and worked on from several standpoints is infinitely more annoying than any abrasive qualities of JVP's critique.
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>I largely agree with John's perceptions of the quality and value of specific coverage of the topic of VB from the VFP standpoint in FPA.
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>As to Developers as humans, clearly, John is proceeding to devolve into a lower life form by entering the legal profession. OTOH, he'll have unique and insightful input into legal issues and developer issues. I wish him well in this endeavor. He's striving to develop a set of learning skills and thought processes quite foreign to the approaches built in being an effective developer and analyst. And his argumentative nature makes him a natural as a litigator.
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>God help us when he dies - we know who'll be writing the docket management package for use in the nether regions when he finally buys the farm!
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>As to myself and JVP, I don't remember having a serious go round with him, but I'm sure some day we will, and you'll get to see a battle of wits where both opponents are well armed...