Hi Erik

Some of your statements about VMP are inaccurate.

>>because it is not a business object-centered framework<<
VMP doesn't force you to use business objects, but it doesn't prevent you either.

>>and did not like the view/table mixture it recommended for DE forms<<
The DE forms all support views as the "main alias" so mixing is not mandatory.

>>I would choose Mere Mortals or VFE<<.
I'll be taking a good long look at VFE when I get a new project. I used to use FoxExpress 2.x and have always been a big fan of the Feltmans.

I agree with everything else you said.

Mike