Rick

Isn't the VFP UI some sort of legacy bit-mapped thing from the days when we needed Unix/Mac compatibility and couldn't just use standard Windows controls?

That must be due for a change.

As for having to use ADO with Winforms: well, I got fairly good with ADO once-upon-a-time with a Java product called "Supercede" that used jADO (you guessed it) to mimic ADO to try to bring VB people into the fold. I never found it that hard and if you are used to XML or Web, the inherent clumsiness of ADO goes away.

But depending on what MS does with ADO next, we might even see a UI over the top of it so we can use collections of 'em like a Datasession. In that case it would be nice to try using Winforms with ADO from VFP IMHO, even if just to show that you can!

Regards

JR