Ed,

>>1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual FoxPro, another Hentzenwerke title; it's a very practical, "how to" oriented book.

OH...Yes after going to their web site and looking at the table of contents that on is a MUST, for my anyway.

>>I still think that people ought to at least take advantage of the references that come with VFP;

Agreed! Right now it is really all that I have besides the UT and a couple of other forums.

Having done a good deal of training and teaching in the past there are some places where the docs are kind of weak, but they certianly should be a primary resource. It absolutely should be the first place to look for a question but you have to look carefully becasue there are places where the answer is not in the obvious place. Of course, that means you have to read ALL of the material and people often do not have that kind of patience anymore.

>>and to me it's very frustrating to see somone drag out a long, repetitive thread, where the same topic was covered two days ago, and the answer is just sitting there in the docs if the person would just sit down and read it.

I think that the search engine is probably THE most under used tool at this site

Let's all sing that line again..... The search engine is THE most under used tool at this site.

I think that this goes back to a being a little lazy and wanting (or needing) the instant answer.

>>I'm just naive in assuming that other people have to read the docs, too, for me at least, the knowledge doesn't creep in through the keyboard by osmosis...

Naive? I don't think so. :) All those on the UT that know Ed and think he is naive would you please stand up! < VBG > Perhaps your just frustrated at the waste of time and energy and probably rightly so.

>>>I guess I'm just brain-damaged; I rarely manage to figure something out
without reading the docs on it and trying it a few times.

Again, brain-damaged? I don't think so. :) Allowing for the fact that people do learn differently, there still has to be a basic amount of leg work like reading the docs and trying it or listening to an instructor and trying it or watching a video and trying it. But I still contend that our culture of instant EVERYTHING has made a major contribution to peoples ability to dig it out for themselves. Why do the work when someone can do it for you! Not the right attitude, mind you, but probably an all too prevelent one.