I can not imagine anyone using a recno as a key, but I guess it could be done.

There are frequently reasons to know how many records are in a file and what records you are loking at. It is not a great and wonderful fearture, just imformative. The current application is just a simple mailing list for a geneology group. I want to recno() of Reccount() which is also the total count for members who have paid for a small newsletter we publish.

So yes it is not a vital number, just interesting.

I have much to learn with regards to VFP and I do appreciate the help!

THANKS