>Please don't misunderstand my intent. By mentioning the groups I do know about I wasn't trying to imply that they were the only ones 'out there'.

But your message pretty clearly said that Christians were the major ones doing this, with a clear implication that others weren't.

>As far as 'more poportionally' I'dbet that it's also geared more towards the notion of Jewish to Jewish help as well.

Mixed bag here. Certain Jewish organizations have tried to take care of the needs of Jews, especially because they (we) were often excluded from other avenues. But, if you look at an awful lot of what's out there, it's not just for Jews. For example, there are a ton of hospitals that were started by Jews because of need for the Jewish community, but that serve the community as a whole.

DD >>>All major universities in the United States with the exception of the one Jefferson started were started as an extension of a group of believers. Princeton, Yale, Harvard, etc.. Every one of them..
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TEG >>Wrong. The University of Pennsylvania, the oldest university in the US, was started by Benjamin Franklin and has always been unaffiliated with any religion.
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DD>And all the rest I mentioned? <g>

Your statement was that "all major universities in the United States" except for the University of Virginia (that's Jefferon's) were started by believers. I produced a counter-example.

>>Not to those of my faith. Over the years, the Republican Party (or many of its members, at least) haven't been very good to Jews at all. In a paragraph I cut, you divided Republicans into "country club Republicans" and "fundamentalists." Each of those groups has a history of persecuting Jews in one way or another.
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>Really? I know that the groups I hang out with would do just about anything to help Jews. I certainly admit that there are those stupid prejudices but I think you err when you make too sweeping generalizations and I think you're kind of close here - IMO.

I was careful to say that it was "those groups," not every member of them who were responsible. In retrospect, "persecution" may be too strong a word for all of what I'm talking about, but "exclusion" wouldn't be. Also, to this day, there are fundamentalist sects (and even some fairly mainstream ones) that have among their specific goals conversion of the Jews to Christianity.

Tamar