>>I may be coming down for the Liberty Bowl, Uniiversity of Louisville vs. Colorado State. Know any place I can get some barbeque without getting mugged? I want to stay a liberal. *g*
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I sensed someone was trying to convert me here... kind of a voice I heard in my head:

"Luke, come to the dark side."

*g*

>One answer: Q-Tips. <g>

I am going to start using those more if they will block out all the rhetoric. *g*

>Orthodox Judaism is fairly strict with respect to 'work' being performed on the Sabbath. For example; if you wore false teeth you could not wear them on the Sabbath as this constituted carrying a burden. Same for wooden legs. <g> The distance you were allowed to walk was, if I correctly recall, under one mile. Either 1/4 or 1/2 if memory serves. You couldn't & can't light a fire for example but microwave ovens are apparently ok (go figure <g>).

I believe Lieberman classifies himself as a Modern Orthodox, but I am not sure about this. Probably analagous to Modern Catholics. And please, do not open that can of worms. *g*

>The one I like is the Shabbat Elevator you can find today in Israel. As pushing a button constitutes work these elevators spend the entire Sabbath rising and falling; stopping on each floor as they ascend and descend. You can simply step into them and step off at your floor without violating Shabbat. <g>
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>I don't think riding in a car was taboo but I don't think you could drive one.

I know I have read the Lieberman has made it a point to walk to the Senate on Saturday, neither driving in a car or riding in one.

>So my guess is that Mr. Lieberman propbably isn't a strict adherent, even though he claims to be Orthodox. Do the degree that he is insincere about his faith and seeks to use ot for political gain - to the same degree I'd think he's off base as far as being consistent with his declarations of orthodoxy.

I did not quite understand this. Are you saying that Lieberman is using his faith for political gain?

>One other thing: Since there is nothing mentioned in the Torah regarding smoking you will find a large number of otherwise very orthodox Jews who alkso are heavy smokers.
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>In Israel today you do not want to drive through an Orthodox neighborhodd or close to one. You will get pelted with rocks.

Now, where did you see/hear/experience this?

>Also, during the times of Jesus (don't know if it holds true now) the Sabbath was either from 6:0PM Friday to 6:00PM Saturday -or- if you were from one of the northern 10 tribes you would typically start about 2(?) hours earlier. This helps explain the timelines that some claim are inconsistent in the New Testament.

I have read sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.