>I believe Dvorak calls it Visual Studio Dot Nyet...

Thats what I've called it too, mostly inspired by Karl's VB.NOT. :-) In any case, Dvorak is dvor-dork. He never backs up anything he says with an actual fact, and he admits that he has no idea of whats going on in .NET, yet, he can get away with telling everyone else its stupid. Everytime I see him on SiliconSpin I laugh cause his guests are always dscussing intelligently and he throws out some half baked remark cause he just doesn't get stuff.