>That's what happens when a self-selected elite is allowed to operate in secrecy. Rules are enforced on "the masses" while the Elite rise above it. While we're at it, perhaps past MCSD's should be allowed to grant passes to themselves and their friends because they are too busy to sit the exam. Maybe I should be allowed to make you a MD because you were too busy to go to med school.

That's politics. You cant have any organization that large without it. That organization would be the people @ Microsoft in conjunction with the FP Alpha circle.

Over the past 10+ years various people have risen into and dropped out of it. Should they have a MVP, I really don't care one way of the other.

If I ask a question here or some other place I don't care how big they are, I just care that the answer was in the proper direction or it's correct.

Taking the point to an extreme, if M$ could fix 5 things about FoxPro, most of us would not consider the MVP program as part of the list.

Enough Said.