>We are usually joined by several members of the fox team after midnight

I can assure that the tradition will continue. I've got a docs person I need to break in. :-)

> ( I guess that's when they come out)!

Oh, we're out earlier than that. We just don't get around to the jam until then.

> We have dubbed ourselves Nerdvana, or three John's and a Chris and generally >have a good time.

*sigh* One of these days I'll work up the nerve to stick my Guild on a plane.