Well right now the pc is at work (not on a network) and the only pc's that I can get to at work are under network restrictions, I will give you the launch (encryption not my class anyway), main menu, dbf's and the form in question, but I don't want you to work on it like a job, surely you have something in the works over there after all you sound like you know what your doing, and I still believe that a service pack would fix it, if I wasn't so lazy I would of ordered the cd by now, I only have a 56k connection here and no cd-burner at work put it on the pc with all the source code

if you still want them Monday I can get the needed files, I am not trying to do any transfers from work, I work for whores

and whats a DE-system and do I need pc-anywhere(I would rather give you the files)

>>Ok here is the gimik
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>>It happens on only 2 forms in my app
>>it happens when I hit one of my navigation buttons (top, previous, next, last) these buttons are in a class (nav.vcx) these buttons are on many forms that don't have the "error"
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>>1st form inv_frm.scx (Inventory data form) loaded with more then 60 objects mostly lables, textboxes, checkboxes and comboboxes
>>Sign of error:
>>click the add button, screen looks like your still looking at a excisting record but if you drag a window in front of the vfp window or minamize and restore and the screen looks fine
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>>2nd form admin.scx ( a form with less then 30 objects ) once again mainly lables, textboxes, graphical checkboxes and some shapes "for looks"
>>Sign of error:
>>I click one of the navbuttons and I can see part of a "shape" is cut off but the form still works fine just a edge of a shape is cut short, but then I click add and all lables and shapes are "invisible" and once again, but if you drag a window in front of the vfp window or minamize and restore and the screen looks fine
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>>if I hit a navbutton on either form I get the error, but I have 10 more forms with the navbuttons and they never error, I mean never error I sat here for 3 hours trying to get another form to error but I couldn't
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>>So I think it can't be the navbuttons class cause it isn't in ever form with these buttons, but if I remove these navbuttons from either form then the "error" stops
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>>So I don't know what to say
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>Stephen, would you think it's possible to dial-in to your system via PC-Anywhere, let's say tomorrow ? Of course no guaranties, but I have the hunch to be able to tackle this one. Is it a DE-system ? I mean, will I be able to put in some Wait's etc ? Even if the error can't be reproduced that easy I still can look.
>It just intreeges me, having had a many of these kinda things, all solved ...
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