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>I've been developing with Fox products for about 16 years now and you have stated very well how many folks think.
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>I'd add that (IMO) the very best way to overcome this is for all of us to set, work towards, achieve and maintain the very highest standards we are able to as individual developers using this product. IMO , at the end of the day it's the quality of the person using the tool, not the quality of the tool (though that does matter) that really matters. I, for one, have made the committment to use VFP to create a world-class application that will force those pointy-haired folks to pay attention.
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>They are, after all, supposed to be "bottom line" oriented and quality apps lend themselves to this far better than griping.
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>JOMO...

I agree. I'm finished with my venting on this issue - I should be fine for about six months until I lose it again ...