>>Nadya,
>>Sysmetric works. 5+3*2, 6+4*2
>>Cetin

Nadya,
Forget them they are needed under very rare circumstances that I cannot saample for the moment.
When replying it's almost impossible to follow your code with tags :(

*Grid.SizeMyShield custom method
with this.Parent.Shield
 .Left = this.Left
 .Top = this.Top
 .Height = this.Height - sysmetric(6)
 .Width = this.Width - sysmetric(5)
endwith

Cetin