Mike,

>>Well, I'm not 100% in Tamar's camp, so to speak.
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>I understand. However, the argument that we're not new Windows users and we don't need helpful things like My Document is never a really good one. I used dismiss alot of these types of features too, but I give them a try first, and most, like this one, start to make sense.

No, you and I aren't new users but those who use our applications or whom we service as a part of our daily duties might be. It's really not about you or me IMO Mike. It's about others and their level of skills. Personally I would think that a newer user would see My Documents as useful. I do as well with the one caveat of the issue where you get so many files in a single directory that it becomes a management headache itself. In that case all you're doing is trading one headace for another. Even then, there's merit to a single directoy but with multiple subdirectories.

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>>Well, my only 'gripe' with using the My Folders directory is that in many cases it can have a lot of files and I've noticed that when Windows Exploder <g> opens a directory with a lot of files it slows down. That counterbalances (in my mind anyway) the notion that using My Documents gives am advantage, speedwise.
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>I'd rather have a user sit 3 or 4 seconds (which is an exrteme case, and hardware in two years will probably make it irrelvant) waiting for the list of documents to show up then have them spend 15 seconds poking around the C drive looking for those documents. Even if they know where too look, navigating Windows Explorer is almost always slower and frustrating than waiting for a list to come up. The advantage isn't in the speed in which the documents come up, as you say (the path isn't hardwired, BTW), it is in having short cuts all over the OS to your documents.

I quite agree that hardware and software hopscotch each other. However, using hardware to solve what may well be either a design or implementation or software error is not the proper response IMO.

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>>As far as having a space in a folder name.. I personally don't like it but recognize that I got my views about this in the days where this was an issue far greater then it is today.
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>Well, its another one of those "new user" things. Can you give an unambigious name for a folder that contains all of your documents that everyone will be able to recognize? I suppose MyDocuments but not everyone is used to a Wikis ;-), and in upper case, it looks even wierder MYDOCUMENTS. To alot of users, that isn't two words mashed together, its some weird computer term. When mutiple users use the same machine, Documents leaves alot to be desired.

Well, no, I don't suppose I can but that kind of makes my point. At some point even though these users may well be able to point to My Documents as the sole repository of their files they might then have a lot of trouble finding the exact right one as a direct result of the sheer numbers of files. That's really the issue I'm getting at is all.

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>But like you say, the use of a space in folder and file names is a non issue these days.
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>Not to rag on you or anyhting, Doug, just explaining what makes sense to me.

I don't think you're 'ragging' on me. You're just stubborn like me. <g> Under control it can be a useful character trait. < BG >