>At present, I don't think it is a good idea. There is presently the VFP >Excellence Award Contest running and I don't want Microsoft to think we >want to have our own contest just because we can't participate in their >contest or that we don't agree with the way they are running it. By the end >of May, yes, it might be a good idea. However, if some people prefer to >start one shortly, please, do not use the Universal Thread for that. I think you've taken this one too seriously. I think I've read the word "fun" in the initial message, and agreed with that first - so, along with the line that "VFP people have more fun that VB people", we could make one just for our own amusement - no prizes, no jury, just the lighter side of programming.