I downloaded the trial version Amyuni offers and got that to work just fine. I mentioned the option to my boss and he still went with Adobe, so we just purchased it. I don't think he'll want to make another purchase. I have Adobe 3.0 at home and the West-Wind class works well with that. As long as we have a license for 5 here, we should be able to use 3.0. Maybe I will just install that and forget 5. ...so much for progress!