>>Charles...
>>Exactly what are you looking for? Congratulations? Acceptance? Thanks? Attention? It's obvious to anyone with even the slightest Mere Mortals clue that that your suggestions are valid. Why not assume that Kevin is extremely busy,
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>doesnt Kevin have employees who support the product???????
>Does "Mere Mortals" consist of Kevin Mcneish, chicken wire and spit?
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>i've worked with three frameworks :
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>1) Codemine
>2) Maxframe
>3) Mere Mortals
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>Mere Mortals seemed to be the only one supported by one guy.
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The one main advantage I see with one person maintaining a framework is that I've found that the framework is much more "consistent" in it's coding style and architecture. This is a MAJOR plus for me, since I find it is a lot easier to read the code. Take a look at the Maxframe code. It's pretty obvious that it was written by multiple people. The coding style changes, the case changes (uppercase VFP, and lowercase VFP), etc. I found it much more difficult to trace than MM's.

> When I put in a support request for Codemine I receieve immediate response from one of three guys including the author David Lehr.
>All three guys "knew their stuff ".
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I've personally never had a problem w/support using Mere Mortals. I'm glad you've had good experiences with/Codemine, though...

>Maxframe 'by' VDS/Drew Speedie is supported by many people. If I have a question about the framework (I had zero problems with the small project I built) I just call up Mike Yearwood. But Maxframe is supported by an entire company... it aint just held together by Drew Speedie .. chicken wire and spit...
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> I am reasonably satisfied with both Maxframe and Codemine.
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> Right in the Codemine web site is a statement about people leaving "codebook based" frameworks for Codemine. The fact that Kevin never made any kind of counter claim about this statement speaks volumes.
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No it doesn't. It just might mean he doesn't use this fact in his advertisments. If Kevin wants to include this fact, he can. I'm moving our company away from Maxframe to Mere Mortals. All new desktop application development here is going to be done using MM.

The fact is, some frameworks suit some developers better than others and it generally has nothing to do with the quality of the company, the coding, or the framework. It really seems to be a personal preference.

> I was dissatisfied with the level of service from Mere Mortals and I sensed that Kevin was the only one supporting the product. After the company I worked for purchased Mere Mortals I recommended that we never use Mere Mortals in a production application.
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That's too bad - it's really a great product. The fact that there was only one "main" contact for support (ignoring the fact that you can get some really good support from other framework users) has never been an issue for me.

> I suggest moving to Codemine or Maxframe and stop fixing Mere Mortals bugs.
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Considering he worked at Flash (home of Codebook), I doubt that will happen, but I'm not him and can't answer for him. Personally, I'd suggest people move to MM's over any other framework.

>when you are 'promised the moon' by a framework vendor and you find simple bugs in the code of the shipped product you should not have to spend your time fixing them.

I never felt I was promised anything that was not delivered. If anything, Kevin has delivered quite a bit more than I expected. There was what I would consider a major upgrade in version 6.0 that all MM v6.0 developers got for free. This was an upgrade that I would have gladly paid for - it included some significant changes. I'm sure there were some business reasons for doing so, but whatever they were I appreciated the free update.

>and the above statements are as brutally honest as I can be.

Same here.