Bill,

When I dropped a new one on the same form I was testing that scenario. I didn't want to go through code modifications to a well running app... just another case of DLLhell and MSIhell.

The network guy did something with the Office install that seems to have fixed the problem.

>No idea, but have you tried putting an instance on a new blank form to see if it might be related the the specific instance of your form ( or perhaps you've tried that )?
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>Have you tried instantiating the control on a form programmatically instead of in the form designer? I know these are not "answers" but maybe they can help you locate the problem or maybe a workaround.