I don't know if its a lost cause, but I think it's an uphill battle and the hill is very steep. IMO, VFP shouldn't be a kitchen sink out of the box. In many cases, the third party products are much better than what comes in the box.

>But that was a part of my point. Voodoo controls are a 3rd party product, not a part of the vanilla VFP product. All of these necessary components are: crystal reports, voodo web controls (or web connect, etc), frameworks that encompass n-tier development, etc. It's all built-in to Delphi as a part of the core product. I'm not saying Delphi is a better development tool (although many would argue that it is), I'm just saying that Delphi developers would be hard-pressed to switch to VFP as a development tool which is what the message to Ken (that I was responding to) was about. Each has their strong points and they cannot compete with each other in some areas. Marketing to Delphi developers would be a lost-cause.
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