>>>Are you saying that none of this was in the framer's intent? I asked Tamar this question. I will throw it to you?
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>>Are you saying that the framers intent is relevant here?
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>It can be relevant. I happen to think the framers did intend an abstract reference to God. The question is, which framers am I referring to?

Isn't intent intimately woven into law, court decisions, verdicts, etc? I believe so. Therefore, intent is highly relevent. This is more directed to Mike, but you are more apt to address this.