>I'm saying none of those things. I'm saying that having lived in a number of countries, the things I see happen here (in the US) are not such monumental disasters.

Then sorry if I was hasty at jumping to conclusions. You did say that politics goes back and forth, and I assumed that you had a point.

>Take a look at the Kyoto Accord and the World environment Conference currently underway in South Africa that Bush refused to attend.

I totally agree, its an embarassment. Much like Bush himself.