>I'm with you totally on these issues and your reponses below... I also think it's funny (or sad actually) that it's still the lack of the Y chromozone that is the problem. Additionally, I cannot believe ANYONE would claim that christianity has done more to liberate women than anything else given our KNOWN history here in the country that has the most freedom. Where do these unrealistic perceptions originate? Obviously from the church...too bad members of many churches were not great supporters of women's rights when it mattered.

Yet the greatest Christian of the UT (aka "Bible-thumping maniac", but I didn't invent that name) has claimed exactly that.

The only explanation I have is that the meaning he read into "liberation" is "you will be liberated from everything else once you join us".

Besides, supporting women's rights would be against the dogmae of their churches, so they are not only omitting the support - they are mostly opposing these rights. Or even when giving support, they always take care not to go too far. And their definition of "too far" is also quite short.