>>In the case of Iran Saddam was aided and abetted by the U.S. I'd even say that there is an excellent chance that the U.N. tried a few resolutions to put a stop to it all. There may even be a chance that the U.S. vetoed.
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>Yes, and as I have pointed out, a terrible mistake on our part. We're a democracy, so I am free to criticize my government for that. I am not seeing too many Iraqis here on the UT criticize their government for invading Iran or Kuwait.

Kinda hard for them to do given that they have no members here (Iraqi). But I don't doubt that they are muzzled by fear anyway. It's getting that way real fast in the U.S. too, by the way, though of course it is detention and court action instead of murder/torture.
I meant to add... so what if it was a terrible mistake. Once you've done it once you will do it again.

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>If you want to make accusations that the US vetoed a resolution on the Iraq vs. Iran war, please back them up.

I said "excellent chance" and "be a chance", so I was NOT accusing anyone. But this may give you some idea: "1980-88: Iran-Iraq war. When Iraq invades Iran, the U.S. opposes any Security Council action to condemn the invasion. U.S. soon removes Iraq from its list of nations supporting terrorism and allows U.S. arms to be transferred to Iraq. At the same time, U.S. lets Israel provide arms to Iran and in 1985 U.S. provides arms directly (though secretly) to Iran. U.S. provides intelligence information to Iraq. Iraq uses chemical weapons in 1984; U.S. restores diplomatic relations with Iraq. 1987 U.S. sends its navy into the Persian Gulf, taking Iraq's side; an overly-aggressive U.S. ship shoots down an Iranian civilian airliner, killing 290." from http://www.geocities.com/catcruz/USMiddleEastHistory.html

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>>I'm really sick of hearing people equate Europe 1939 to Saddam/Iraq today. There is not an iota of comparability between the two save that both countries were ruled by idiotic a-holes.
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>Right. Germany completely complied with disarmament post World War I, the same as Iraq is completely complying with disarmament post Gulf War. Germany did not invade 2 of it's neighbors, the same as Iraq hasn't. Neither country was ruled by a dictator at the time. Neither county gassed a religous or ethnic minority in their country.

And you say you don't see any difference at all between Hilter taking one country after another and holding them while diplomats dithered compared to some FAILED actions by Saddam 12 years ago and 23 years ago??? Your mind works in mysterious ways, Chris.

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>What, me worry?
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>>From an outsider's point of view President Bush has the same characteristics that you are ascribing to those others. What give President Bush the RIGHT to go about imposing his will and "democracy" on whoever he chooses?
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>The right any country has to defend itself from attack, including a terrorist attack. Remember, it wasn't just Bush that was worried about Saddam's WMD, it was the rest of the world. See U.N. Resolution 1441:
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>http://www.un.int/usa/sres-iraq.htm
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>>I'd be ready to fire back with everything I have. Now which border is it of the U.S. that is under such pressure???
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>Every border. Or maybe you missed the news on September 11th, 2001.

Right... the troops are amassed across from Detriot and Seattle and El Paso and San Diego. Oh, wait a minute, EVERYone's border who you choose is also your border. Pardon me, I wasn't aware of this new world order.