Hi Tom.....
I know that what you have said happens and it is sad, however in the case that started this thread there needs another voice.
I visit tek-tips on occasion and have posted there for a couple of years. I've mentioned the UT on numerous occasions and have never had a problem at all.
There are other problems that are not being spoken of here (attitudes, etc) and the rag on tek-tips is quite unfair. To be sure there is another side to this story.
Hope all is well with you....
Best
Tom Gahagan
Alliance
Computer Solutions
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