And then, if the tricky thing will not go where you want it, just delete it and put another back in where you want it.

Tommy

>Charles,
>The quickest way to select the separator is to select it in the properties sheet so that its anchor point is highlighted in the screen.
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>HTH
>Caroline
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>>Seperators are tricky devils. Once you insert them, finding them in order to move them around is a bear. The trick is they are aligned with the tops of the buttons. Try clicking on that top edge between the buttons and see if you can get a handle on the separator. Then you can drag it to the line between two buttons and it will pop in place. Once you get the hang of it it isn't too bad, but I have shared your frustration.
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>>>Do the buttons appear seperated on the form once the seperator is inserted or only at run-time? Because when I insert the seperator, nothting changes on the toolbar in design mode. Maybe I'm still doing something wrong.