>>>>Some people seem to get a bit edgy when someone challenges something in FoxPro, this >>then leads to friction, then a disagreement, followed by an argument.
>>>> Kev
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>>>>>Yes, it was to discuss the flexibility of databases with you. Thinking an idiot like >>>you could be capable of something that basic was my mistake. I admit that.
>>>>> Mike
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>>And then others are just plain hostile!
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>>I think this type of response sucks!
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>>I am trying to read through a thread that has some great underlying meaning to it and constantly have to "weed out" "heat-seeking-missle" responses from the knowledgeable and positive responses Mike, JVP, and others have submitted.
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>Yeah, just when you think a thread could turn out to be interesting, the views get too strong, and personal attacks are then issued, I agree with what you said about the above response, it sucks badly.
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>>It is frustrating to me, and I am making a huge assumption that others feel the same way. I may not have the knowledge and/or confidence that others have to actively respond. I do, however, go through this forum several times a day to help increase my knowledge and understanding of VFP and other technologies available.
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>I'm going to be brutally honest here, but from my view on this, I haven't yet see anyone prove JVP wrong on this thread, I may be wrong, but that is my view, what I HAVE seen, however, is people quick to say "Just shut-up and sit in the corner", and I'm thinking, if he's so much in the wrong, why can't you prove it? One thing I've also noticed is that it is NOT JVP starting the personal attacks, they come from others first - again, don't take my word for it, I may have missed something.
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>I may be completely wrong, but that's the way I see it, because JVP IS well-known in this community he is quickly discarded, unfairly. My opinion? Too many people here are biased. In the early stages of this thread a 10gb table was mentioned, first thing I would've said would've been "OK, you got me, in Fox I would have to a, b, c & d - that's not flexible, in SQL Server it's possible straight out of the box", it's only people who feel threatened that would resort to petty responses.
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>>Can't the two of them flame each other using private emails instead?
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>Maybe they do, as well as publicly!! :-)
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>Kev

I too get sick and tired of the barrage of personal attacks and petty bickering that threads like this seem to become. I use the UT to get useful information that can help me solve problems in whatever programming task that I have. That is what UT is really designed to do.

I have been using UT for several years and have found many of the threads that JVP has responded to (especially in the far past) to be helpful if you have the patience to wade through the noise and petty crap going on around them. Although I have noticed that lately it seems that he is involved in more chatter section threads and seems to be practicing his debating skills in preparation for his new career as a lawyer. It seems lately that he responds to far fewer "technical" threads to offer a solution unless, more often than not, it is to evangelize that Fox is dead or dying and if you are wise you will jump to the next greatest thing MS is pushing and to use enterprise level databases and tools. We have all heard this "message" for years, but this seems to get those more emotional about it to jump in and start the mud slinging and personal attacks.

I am a believer in using the right tool for the job and that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. But when confronted with a nail, it is not wise to use your shiny new gizmo simply because it is the newest, sexiest, most advertised tool in your tool box when your trusty hammer is really what you need. I am not opposed to using .NET, VFP, SQL Server, ORACLE, or DBF's or any combination required to provide the best solution to the task at hand.

Just my 2 cents.