David,

I went to the site you noted yesterday, but never did encounter the reference you cited. I did *not* examine everything (didn't have time) but did read all of the basic one which came up.

Nevertheless, you and me may well be used to PageFrames, but some users simply want their screen forms to look EXACTLY like their paper forms. PageFrames can never meet this requirement, not should we have to "show them the light" so to speak (because all we are really trying to do is rationalize our inability to deliver what they want).

In addition, as came through clearly in what I *did* read at that site, it is a lot easier to make UI errors using PageFrames than it is to do do using scrollable page, especially if that page is a replica of a paper page in the first place.

In summary, Tahoe does the right thing by making scrollable forms available. That way, all can be satisfied.

Cheers,

Jim N

>Colin,
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>So Tahoe make it easier for people to produce bad UI forms *s* Hey I've got it let use both PageFrames and scroll bars... and scroll bars inside the pages we can have our users tied to the scrollbar forever! *evil laugh*
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>>I agree, I prefer to use pageframes as well. That said, however, I have seen cases where more info is required on a form than will fit on the screen, especially when developing for the smallest resolution, and it is very difficult to decide on a logical split of what info should be on each page. Since Tahoe now has a Form.ScrollBar property this requirement must happen frequently enough.