Jon,
Yes, I have CR8.5 on my box and there CR 8.5 reports on
the remote server. All i want to do is:

xx = SQLSTRINGCONNECT("dsn=CSNDB02; uid=ORATEST1; pwd=mypassword")
oCRW85 = CREATEOBJECT("CrystalRuntime.Application.8.5")
oCRW85.LogOnServer("p2sodbc.dll","CSNDB02")

Then oCRW85.OpenReport & look at it.
The LogOnServer above gets me an error from CR ActiveX:
"Server has not yet been opened..."
Thanks.