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>Oh yeah but to find it you really have to know that that's what you're looking for. Is it just a coincidence that VFP is not a member of the key topics in the developer centers when the other languages are there? Even J# is there <vbg>.
But of course you'll find it by clicking the combobox (all products and technology) and when you finally get to the last items there it is. I guess MS is very lucky that this list is ordered alphabetically. All the visual tools are near the end. That would'nt be good for their MAJOR tools. So those important tools have their place in key topics. So only VFP got screwed up in that brilliant marketing move.

Just because something is missing doesn't mean it isn't important. SQL Server is missing too.


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>>- Ken commenting on things here on the UT *is* marketing
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>Waste of energy, waste of time, waste of money. With a marketing budget so tight he should concentrate on those that don't have VFP. Not a place where the majority uses it and will probably continue to do so for a while.

Huh? How do you figure? Do you think Ken promoting VFP 8 and upcoming features in VFP9 is not marketing? How many people on the UT do you think are still using VFP 6? Promoting a new version *is* marketing.

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>>- the VSD team blog *is* marketing
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>ROFL

Perhaps you should start reading articles that discuss how blogs are the newest, greatest marketing tool.

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>>- Ken speaking at the Accountmate conference *is* marketing
>>- Ken speaking at DevEssentials, DevCon, Southwest Fox, and others *is*
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>Ken speaking in front of audiences already sold to VFP. Oh boy what a boost that'll give to VFP sales.

See my above comments about upgrading.

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>I've got an idea and that would'nt cost much. Instead of Ken sending data sheets to MS sales reps perhaps sales reps should send data sheets to companies. Because no matter the marketing Ken do to those sales reps I'm sure they won't buy VFP.

You're "sure"? Perhaps you shouldn't speak for everyone or say things that you can't backup. Internal marketing is VERY important. In the last year, I've actually had MS sales reps here in SLC ask me about VFP. This didn't happen before.

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>??? Could you please explain more on this one because I don't get it but if possible here apply same strategy that involved Ken and sales reps.

It keeps executives in the know that VFP is a viable product that is keeping up with technology and meeting customer requests. Again, internal marketing is VERY important.

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>I'd be willing to see really useful examples.

Define useful.