I hope you know I was kidding...

Your debate idea is a good one...

I would have to say, though, that it is unfair...you are right, they are wrong...

Have fun,

Joe


>>>That said, I am bailing on the flame war as I have plain run out of time.
>>
>>What?!?!? Don't be a WIMP!!!! Stick in there and fight!!!
>
>Well, I did'nt exactly bail. I laid down a challenge to Karl Peterson - or anybody else that would like to engage me in a point/counter-point style article. Here is the text of that challenge:
>
>Wimp is an interesting term. I will set that aside for now. I will lay down
>the gauntlet right here... right now. You pick a neutral publication -
>perhaps Software Development. You and I will square off - point
>counter-point style. You can take the position that VB is OO and I will take
>the counter position - using VFP as a reference point of OO - as it is both
>the other tool I know and use and it is the OO tool that is most akin to
>VB. I hope you did'nt take offense at that. We will keep our arguments to 2
>pages - and if you can - try to avoid name calling and stick to the facts.
>We will write our positions and let the readers decide. I figure folks will
>fall into 4 categories: Don't Care, Don't Know, Yes - VB is OO, or No - VB
>is not OO.
>
>By the way - in case you thought I was a VFP-only zealot - you would be
>incorrct. Just so everybody knows - I think VB is a very good tool with
>lots of great features. Heck - over 50% of my development is VB related. It
>(VB that is) just isn't OO. OO is the context of my argument. My debate is
>with those who contend it (VB that is) is OO. My debate is also with those
>who give sessions or write books on VB and OO.
>I know that many in the development don't care. I also know that many in the
>development community do care about this argument.
>
>So, do you accept my challenge - or - are you going to be known as the guy
>in the VB world that backed down to this so-called VFP wimp - and be a wimp
>yourself?
>
>So far, I have not heard from Karl - but another guy jumped in to do this. Now I have to pitch the idea to a few folks to see if I can get this published.
>
>Also, when VBIT's hits NY, I may throw an offer out to Fawcette to see if they would let me do a Midnight Madness session on who OO really is and to keep things as close to home as possible - how VFP implements it. It would be real interesting to see if they took me up on that.
>
>Let the games begin...
>
>Later....