>>But businesses here mainly use that when they are (quietly, of course) preparing to move to China (or India or...).
>>Business wants cheap and CONTROLLED labour, and China is exactly the right place! India works in the interim because it does still have "cheap", but still not as cheap as China and certainly with no control like China offers!!!
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>Hi Jim,
>Do you ever work with Indians?
>I have this chance :-)))).
>They are on the level of low qualified workers and their advantage is only low cost. They have not knowledge for smart last technologies systems.
>They are not trained in newest technologies and nobody will do this.
>But they are very good in development of lagacy systems about which has a lot of stuff and job require repeating of almost the same things.
>As example - creating of high volume reports with VB6.0 and CR.
>All good programmers from India or China immigrate in USA, Canada, Europe.
>They do not threat your/our job.

Again, Jordan, you very much over-simplify.
Let me offer an example of a Chinese programmer I worked with here, a talented and smart fellow.
He developed his programs in 'sections'... wrote a section, tested it, moved to the next section, tested it, repeat until complete. If a section didn't test properly on the second attempt he simply cut the code out, re-coded, and resumed testing. To me this was very wasteful/silly. Yet it worked for him! But the main message is that he grew smarter as he was exposed to other concepts.
You would also be very surprised to learn that many many Indians are happily returning to India. Yes, the more mobile (not necessarily smarter) ones did come to North America and elsewhere, but that is now changing.
But they'll come back, once China takes that market too.

Jim