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21/11/2004 17:16:38
Dragan Nedeljkovich (En ligne)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
 
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>>Since I have no idea where to start from, and you sound like a proponent of the idea that creationism needs to have equal chances, probably you would be the right person to point me to a place where I can find compelling evidence to convince myself that creationism is a viable theory.
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>I got most of what I know about creationist theory from reading creationist books that are support by scientific facts about law of nature and science.
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>one is A Brief History of Time by Dr. Stephen Hawkins.

I haven't found a conclusive sentence in dr. Hawking's book, which would definitely put him on the creationist's side. The closest is this, which I find rather neutral:

"One possible answer is to say that God chose the initial configuration of the universe for reasons that we cannot hope to understand. This would certainly have been within the power of an omnipotent being, but if he had started it off in such an incomprehensible way, why did he choose to let it evolve according to laws that we could understand?
The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired."


>One argument is the earth's atmosphere at the dawn of evolution. Many evolution scientist believe that at one point, earth's atmosphere was "anoxic", meaning without free oxygen (O2). They believe about 2 billion years ago earth atmosphere was made up of reducing agents such as Nitrogen (N2), Methane (CH4), water vapor (H2O) and ammonia (NH3). Miller/Uray's experiment was base on this assumption because under oxydizing atmosphere, it is almost impossible for bio-molecules to form.
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>If reducing atmosphere was true back 2 billion years ago, you would expect to find some evidence of that in our geological layers. But you don't. Instead you see abundance of oxydized medals like Magnetite (Fe3O4) and hematite (Fe2O3) in the "Banded iron Formation" (common in Archean and Proterozoic strata). Other oxydized mineral like barite (BaSO4), celestite (SrSO4), anhydrite (CaSO4), and gypsum (CaSO42H2O) are also common at this layer.

It may as well be proof that the atmosphere was anoxic, simply because all available oxygen was bound in such compounds. And then, is such anoxic atmosphere necessarily reducing? Though, chemistry is one of the sciences where my knowledge is thin (it extended to doing my developers and fixers by recipe, not buying ready mixes for my photo lab, but not much further).

back to same old

the first online autobiography, unfinished by design
What, me reckless? I'm full of recks!
Balkans, eh? Count them.
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