To Dave and the others who have responded to my original question, Thanks. I have used tabs and other techniques to expand the space on my forms and I've also moved the distant controls onto the form via the property sheet so I could work with them. And lastly, I would never use a wizard generated form in one of my apps because of all the "extra" stuff you get when the wizard does the work.

Thanks for all your thoughts but none of you addressed my real question (sorry if I wasn't clear enough.) The real question is . . . Why can't I expand the height of the form to include the controls where the wizard put them? Is there a maximum height in VFP that a form can be? And why won't the verticle scrollbar move the form all the way to the bottom of a very tall form?

Thanks if anyone knows the answers to these questions. (I'm using VFP 7.0)