Don,

Tore showed you how to modify the max as far as the designer is concerned.

Did you try turning on the form scrollbars to see if you could get to the controls in the designer? I didn't even think to suggest that because I despise scrollable forms. *g* I don't think the wizard is quite smart enough to know it ran out of space and should turn on the scrollbars by itself.

But a form with scrollbars still has limitations that the wizard could exceed with a really large number of fields. The scrollable form is limited to 2 times the system video height/width.

PS asking the "real question" tends to get "real answers" earlier. *s*

>Thanks for all your thoughts but none of you addressed my real question (sorry if I wasn't clear enough.) The real question is . . . Why can't I expand the height of the form to include the controls where the wizard put them? Is there a maximum height in VFP that a form can be? And why won't the verticle scrollbar move the form all the way to the bottom of a very tall form?
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>Thanks if anyone knows the answers to these questions. (I'm using VFP 7.0)