>To Dave and the others who have responded to my original question, Thanks. I have used tabs and other techniques to expand the space on my forms and I've also moved the distant controls onto the form via the property sheet so I could work with them. And lastly, I would never use a wizard generated form in one of my apps because of all the "extra" stuff you get when the wizard does the work.
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>Thanks for all your thoughts but none of you addressed my real question (sorry if I wasn't clear enough.) The real question is . . . Why can't I expand the height of the form to include the controls where the wizard put them? Is there a maximum height in VFP that a form can be? And why won't the verticle scrollbar move the form all the way to the bottom of a very tall form?
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>Thanks if anyone knows the answers to these questions. (I'm using VFP 7.0)

Form's height and weight have a limit to 2xWindowsDesktopH or W.
This limit it is removed into VFP9, where the limit it is 32K pixels for X and Y.