Barbara,

The form1.top value has nothing to do with form2.top. I need to find where to set form2.top so it will be positioned where I want it over form1.

>>Hi All
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>>I need to position a form over another form and I am having a problem figuring out what the height of the toolbar is.
>>SYSMETRIC(2)-_screen.Height = 50 with no toolbar
>>SYSMETRIC(2)-_screen.Height = 79 with a toolbar.
>>How can I calculate the height of the toolbar at runtime. My assumption is the first value can change depending on how the window is configured.
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>>Thanks
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>There's something you're not telling us. What does the _screen.height have to do with the position of either of the forms?