> > >So ... would you not agree that 'Visuality' stands somehow in the way of > >pure OO at this stage in VFP? > > "visual" programming and prototyping are to help you develop more rapidly as I said somwehere else OO is not about this. > OO mixes with RAD mainly in the sense that OO helps increase reusability > but they colide on other "matters" So ... is that Yes, I agree? :) > DEs are not what u talk about (or at least not what I think u talk about) in the sense that although they separate the open/close relations etc. from the rest of the form they don't isolate the table from the code > if i use a DE I still seek directly in the table - > > I find using DEs (as separate object from the form) enough > I don't think that going for that extra trouble will add too much in robustness as my classes are "table independant" as is As we say in French, "Il n'y a que les imbeciles qui ne changent jamais d'avis", (only idiots never change their minds), I am now trying to build a framework to implement OO, not directly of course, I think we all agree that that would suicidal, but slowly extending the basic framework, and I thought that the tableBase class is not a bad place to start. Anyway, thanks for your time to respond, and sorry if my postings are not as limpid as I woud like them to be. Regards, Marc.