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26/09/2006 22:29:22
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>[RE: Libertarian Immigration Policy]
>>I believe we need a guest worker program and that anyone who is lawabiding and wishes to come to this country should be free to do so, however, I think everyone who comes to this country needs to come legally, pay taxes, pass a driving test and get a drivers license (and proof of insurance like everyone else) if they wish to drive, and receive the appropriate benefits as a taxpayer. We have to be realistic regarding security - the amount of crime committed by illegal immigrants is amazing and they do not receive the same sentences as citizens. Anyone can cross the border from the south and the north just as almost anything can be shipped into this country which needs to be rectified. Too often illegal immigrants who commit crimes are shipped back to their country without any time spent in jail (or just released onto the street) and then they just simply cross over again and repeat the same process. I also think that fines and legal proceedings need to be taken against employers
>who
>> hire illegal immigrants. I have to show proof of citizenship or proof that it is legal for me to work in this country to acquire employment and I believe that should be the case for everyone. My daughter has to have proof of citizenship by showing a birth certificate to attend school but illegal immigrants do not. I have to show proof of insurance or pay to receive medical treatment. If I don't pay then they will hound me for the rest of my life. There is no way to track down payments from illegals. When I was a teenager and working for a restaurant, the dishwasher made up an ssn to work at the same restaurant. That was essentially stealing someone's identity. That is what is typically done still today.
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>I agree with you.
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>Heck, I was going to write the exact same argument you just made.
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>From what I can tell, the libertarians agree with you too.
>They are in favor of LEGAL immigration.
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>Best,
>Michael

Michael;

The Bracero Program (concerned with agriculture) began in August of 1942, and lasted until 1964. There are two sides to the story and perhaps there is some truth from both sides. One side of the story is that the Baracero Program contracted specific individuals for a specified period of time to work in the United States.

While Pat Brown was governor, it was allowed that a worker could bring his/her family. Children had to go to school. Each family or individual had to be given a proper place to sleep and live. At the end of the season the workers would return to Mexico with his/her earnings. Places of business that used Bracero labor were inspected by the state of California for complience.

The other side of the story is that there were “human rights violations”. That term was not used in 1964 but is in use today. The term used in 1964 was “raciest”, and the program was abolished.

Today we have illegal aliens who work as Bracero’s sleeping on the ground in many areas of California. No one looks out for them. They are exploited by employers and life is difficult for them.

It has been estimated that about 30% of California drivers do not have automobile insurance. You have to have a valid drivers license to buy automobile insurance. According to several state laws passed by voters in California, you must have automobile insurance to drive in this state. Illegal aliens are not allowed to have valid drivers licenses. Wards of the state (welfare) are not required to have insurance. Many people cannot afford insurance. Be sure that you have uninsured motorists insurance!

By the way the California Employment Development Department after the Bracero program was abolished, offered agricuultural jobs to unemployed. One person accepted the job and lasted one hour before quiting, in 1964. As is typical of the media no followup to this story has been given.

Tom
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