>Well, I don't know what you mean with 'we', but as a parent myself I'm realistic enough that my words and rules don't mean much when they're 18 or so. No matter how it hurts seeing your kids growing up, I'd rather see them sexually active in a responsible manner than my daugther getting home with 'a bun in the oven'.
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>Don't take me wrong, I still will educate my children my norms and values which is that they really should be sure they wan't to have sex before they decide. I think Holland is very liberal in this respect, and I recognise that other parts of the world do have different 'norms and values'.
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What I meant with "we" is us parents. I did not know if you were but I went ahead and included you with that assuming you were.

I think I am realistic when I say: “there is so much you can control”.
But the fact is that you and I may think very differently on how we educate our kids. I’m sure you are a great father, but I cannot agree with you on giving condoms to my kids.(which I am not sure you meant it literally) For me that would be encouraging them.
Looking back when I was 16-18, IF my father would have given me condoms before I left the house, I would have demanded some cash and his car to go w/it so I can give good use to the condoms.